In an attempt that was wonderful as an experience, I acted as a shaman in gathering up the objects. I wasn't picking up everything I saw, I was living in a different state of consciousness, not the standard every day one. However, I must make clear that I was not under the influence of any drugs, but rather living with enormous intensity. This state has repeated itself several times in my works. Then when I was writing my thesis, I found information about The Store by Claes Oldenburg. It was wonderful, because there was my experience translated into ideas, into words. But for me the experience came first and always does [...] The need for art not only to have a theoretical meaning but, above all, an experiential one is for me the basis of its transformational capacity, that is, its ability to touch the world significantly. (Barney, 2016)